Comments on: Moving media players into the future, and Camp KDE

By: lfranchi

lfranchi — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:22:12 +0000

Those are big words—you don’t know “what most people want”" any more than anybody else does, so vague blanket statements like that don’t support your point. You clearly like minimal players that just let you play an mp3. VLC fits your use-case perfectly, and that’s great. But given how many people use Amarok/Banshee/Rhythmbox on linux and iTunes on OSX/Windows, at least appreciation for the fact that people want more out of their media players is in order.

You also ignore the fact that video is different than audio—people don’t tend to have thousands of videos tagged and organized, they don;t have them grouped, watch them in sequence, etc. So VLC and Tomahawk are solving radically different problems.

So all in all, Tomahawk is not for you—and that’s fine! We all want different things. You can continue using VLC to play your audio, and we’ll continue to make Tomahawk awesome to fit our needs and the needs of our users.

By: simon

simon — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:14:01 +0000

I hate ALL the audio players in Linux since theyve all gone it seems to the Itunes ‘full page is needed to play an mp3′ mode.

What most people want is something unobtrusive when they need it to be and maybe something mre full features on those rare occassion thats what they want.

VLC has that basic playlist and is THE videoplayer on more than one OS so its very simple to have it be your default audio and video player.

Less is more.

By: bigbrovar

bigbrovar — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:49:34 +0000

This is one of the best thing to happen in music management IMHO. I will sure keep an eye on this project. Keep up the good work.

By: lfranchi

lfranchi — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:23:35 +0000

Each of us has different reasons for working on Tomahawk, so I can only speak for myself. I am not motivated to work on Amarok right now, and haven’t been for the last nine or so months, for various social and technical reasons. tomahawk has different goals and a different internal architecture, too. on top of that, we don’t want a hard KDE dep because I want it to look beautiful on all platforms, win/mac/linux—integrate with KDE in linux, integrate with OSX on mac, etc. that’s simply not as easy if you bring the kde libraries along with you.

By: g

Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:06:45 +0000

The functionality that you want to introduce in this app is something which I would expect to be in Amarok. All the goals you mention are things which in my opinion fit perfectly the goal of Amarok (“(re)discover your music”). So my question is: why are you KDE guys not supporting the well-known KDE app Amarok and why you are instead complicating my life further by creating yet another music app that has some features that other music apps don’t have and which does not have all features available in the other apps? Why not help Amarok to become the app which lets me (re)discover my music wherever it is located?

By: Cyrille Berger

Cyrille Berger — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:48:59 +0000

Sounds exactly what I expect from a music player Looking forward to see your project mature.

And creating new projects is the what is driving innovation. Maybe it would be a good idea to create LibQtMusicPlayerKit that would contains components needed to assemble quickly new music players ;P

By: Alejandro Nova

Alejandro Nova — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:36:37 +0000

Yes, and yes, it did interfere. And yes, after an “aptitude remove libclucene-dev”, Tomahawk compiled and ran.

Thank you.

By: Markus

Markus — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:33:05 +0000

I think agreeing with the Amarok people on a stable plugin API to use with a great number of media players should benefit everyone just as KDE’s Image Plugin Interface (KIPI) benefits so many applications.
If the API is QML/JavaScript-only, the plugins would even run on all OSes.

By: Markus

Markus — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:25:47 +0000

You’re at 0.0.1. A bleeding edge Phonon is the least of your problems

Can’t wait either. I’m a passionate Juk user and I’m waiting for a new music player that’s alike Juk and is actually maintained apart from mere build fixes…
Tomahawk looks to be the best candidate out there.
Probably as soon as you’ll switch to Phonon and offer a real KDE build (with system-wide hotkeys, movable toolbars, Oxygen icon set), I’ll switch too.

By: Markus

Markus — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:19:20 +0000

QZeitgeist is no KDE libary and when you use Phonon 4.5 in the future, you’ll have Zeitgeist capabilities as well – they just have to be utilized